Tuesday, February 15, 2011

Capital vs.operating expense, parte deux

I opened an email from Select Board member Ms. Stone today and found it included a statement from Scholl Committee member, Mr. Jones. talking about the budgeting process, he said, in part,

While this process plays out we have also met with the Select Board and Finance Committee to discuss the upcoming year's budget, discuss ways to implement additional efficiencies and finally ratify a written financial policy that the entire town will use as a guideline going forward. I will use this newsletter to focus on the last item as I believe it contains some very important policy guidelines that I think should be understood.
The policy for capital expenditures is noteworthy because our school system has benefited greatly in recent years by advocating, along with others, a more comprehensive definition of what constitutes a capital expense. The policy states that a capital expense is one whose cost, in aggregate, exceeds $10,000, and whose life expectancy exceeds 5 years. Look up most any definition of a capital expense and you will see some variation on that theme. The town's definition is a fair one in my opinion (and mine as well- Lara Stone)
For the past two years the schools have made a successful case that both the new K-6 English Language Arts and K-5 Math programs are in fact a capital expense. Each of these programs cost in excess of $375,000. The programs in use prior to their replacement were in place for over 8 years. The replacement programs are expected to last at least as long. During the two years when we advocated to the Select Board and Finance Committee for the need for these programs the town, (including the schools) through considerable streamlining and efficiencies, was able to generate significant sums of year end so-called 'free cash'. (Free cash is that money that was budgeted but not spent by year's end. Typically the town does not 'overbudget' but in any budget of some +$70m, there will be some money left at the end of the
year. People retire unexpectedly, take a leave of absence and are not replaced etc.) We made a strong case that a portion of that free cash be used for the purchase of these two programs as capital expenses. The case was strong enough in fact that it received near universal approval from the Select Board the Finance Committee and both Town Meetings. Other town departments made cases for a portion of that free cash and were successful as well.
The schools have never sought to use this free cash to purchase simply 'text books'. In fact we agree that a simple series of grade level texts do not constitute a capital expense and should be purchased out of our yearly operating budget. However there is a significant difference between replacing a series of 9th grade science texts whose cost might be $8-10,000 for example and the purchase of a program whose scope encompasses texts, software, professional development training, and workbooks for an entire elementary school system of some 1,000 children. These programs are most successful when purchased as a whole so that each student's knowledge is built from year to year by a program that is designed from the start to be consecutive and continuous. To purchase one grade level every year as the operating budget allows would one, be much more expensive and two, be qualitatively inferior because entire grades of students would not get the benefit of the new program.
Why is this important now? Didn't the schools succeed the previous two years in getting Town Meeting to fund these purchases? Yes they did, however it has become clear after our recent joint meeting that at least one member of the Select Board feels the schools have overstepped their boundaries in asking for funding for capital expenses for what he feels are ordinary 'operating expenses'. The agreed upon definition of a capital expense matters not to some it seems. From my correspondence with the Select Board member in question it is clear that since the schools receive Required Minimum Net School Spending (RMNSS) we should be happy to sit quietly and not advocate for what we feel are legitimate needs within the system.
Just so you know, the RMNSS comes from a state derived formula whose results insure an 'ADEQUATE' operating budget for a school system-and that amount places us at #305 out of 328 school districts in terms of per pupil spending. I am not sure when anyone was satisfied with adequate. I am also not sure that you would be very happy with central administration or anyone of your school committee members if we thought RMNSS was where we stop advocating for education here in Dartmouth.
What I am sure of is that we are entitled to make our case just like any other department within town. We have made that case on at least these two items and are very grateful to the Town for their support of them. I do not take that support for granted and I do not expect that we will be successful every time we present a case to the various town bodies. It is no secret that with every year 'free cash' dwindles. As every department cuts and streamlines their operations it is only natural that less money will be available to spread to other departments to address their legitimate needs at year's end. There is no secret here and I understand that. I also understand that it is important for a continued working relationship to have mutual trust between all parties.
In my opinion having to look back and re-fight the same battles over and over again even in the face of an agreed upon written definition of a guiding policy frays that trust. Where does that leave us? I think overall the various boards and committees within Town have and continue to work well together. The very nature of school/town funding almost guarantees a certain amount of tension between the school and town, it is to be expected and I don't see that changing any time soon. Yet in spite of that I think the cooperation and mutual understanding between both 'sides' has resulted in a markedly improved school system.
In three year's time the town has seen fit to assist the schools in starting a tuition-free full day kindergarten program, fund the purchase of the above mentioned ELA and Math programs, and purchase a significant number of replacement computers throughout the school district. This commitment to the schools above RMNSS shows that we have sought ways to cooperate to the benefit of all.
What I hope this particular newsletter will accomplish is to let you know that we must be grateful for what we have been given but also know that we need to be cognizant of how funding works within town and that knowledge will allow us to continue to make successful arguments when necessary to protect our schools in the face of a very difficult economy.

Of course, I am the Select Board member with whom he takes exception. I wrote about the subject in this previous posting.
I would like to make ... ...a few points about Mr. Jones' remarks.
First, I have no quarrel with the definition of capital spending. It has been adopted and I agree with it. The area that he and I disagree is where the line is drawn between one time capital funds, which in Dartmouth mainly come from unspent appropriations called free cash, and on-going expenses which are needed to fund operations. I would classify educational materials or police cars as ongoing operating expenses. While both meet the criteria for capital expenditure, we cannot run our schools or our police department without educational materials or vehicles respectively. I think as a matter of good policy, expenses needed for on-going operations must come from recurring revenue. Capital funds are not recurring revenue and therefore should not be used. That is exactly the policy which we have adopted, no one time revenue to support operations. Therefore I have opposed using capital funds for educational materials, and also police cars, and I will continue to do so. I simply think it is bad policy.
My question to Mr. Jones, and for you readers to consider, is this, 'What will the school department do to get current educational materials if there is not enough one time revenue to purchase them?' It seems that we should plan for such an eventuality as it seems likely to occur. I am certainly not asking to rehash any old arguments about what constitutes a capital expense. I am asserting that our adopted policy is that one time revenue should not be used to support on going operations and purchasing educational materials with one time revenue goes against that policy.
Consider for a moment that prior to the last couple of years, these materials were purchased from within the school department budget. How was this done? One possible way would be to plan for the expenditure in advance. Unlike all the other town departments, which must return any unspent appropriation to the town's General Fund at the end of a fiscal year, (this is how the free cash is generated) the school department is allowed to retain a percentage of their budget and carry it forward to a new fiscal year. In this way, large purchases can be funded by saving up a reserve to fund them over several years. Most school departments handle the purchase of large textbook series in this fashion. I think it would be a better fiscal policy to plan for replacement of educational materials in that way, rather than rely on the possibility that sufficient one time cash will be available. This is the crux of the disagreement.
Mr. Jones makes mention of Required Minimum Net School Spending (RMNSS). Some continue to insist that Dartmouth finds the school department at this level when, in fact, the town's appropriation is hundreds of thousands more than the RMNSS level. The school appropriation amount(while more than RMNSS) does not take into account the $1.5 million that the town appropriated for educational materials and technology over the past several years, the $300,000 a year for full day kindergarten, the $130,000 per year appropriated so the school committee would reduce or eliminate fees for activities and transportation. I am happy that the town has been able to provide these funds. Nonetheless, we continue to hear that the schools are not getting more than RMNSS funding. Not true.
Finally, the way in which school funding is assessed to the towns by the state has the effect of shifting the expenditures from all other town departments to the school department. That is the current state of affairs. The school department is not to blame for the formula, but they benefit from it and result has real consequences for operating the town. For instance, the town committed $300,000 from a new sales tax surcharge on meals and hotels to fund full day kindergarten. That amounts to about 1/2 of the revenue generated by the tax. However, if you follow school funding formula closely, you find the other half was automatically given to the school department due to the increase in local receipts applied within by the formula. So while the town appropriated half to the schools, the state required the rest to be appropriated in the funding formula. Net result, the entire meals and hotel tax revenue goes to the school department which leaves no increase at all for the other town departments.
Now some seem to think that I have bad feelings toward the school department. That is not the case. However, the school department is just one of several town departments providing services to the populace. I hope to balance the needs of all departments in order to continue to provide the services that residents expect. One way to do so is to insist upon sound fiscal policy.

41 comments:

Anonymous said...

"For instance, the town committed $300,000 from a new sales tax surcharge on meals and hotels to fund full day kindergarten."

How about stop knuckling under to the School Committee everytime it smells the $$$ sign?

What was the FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE reasoning in allowing activity fees to be halved and transportation fees eliminated completely? Giving the parents a break is not an acceptable answer.
I remember the warm fuzzies of that meeting. The school had the fee money, but the parents needed a break. Give me a break, not to be factitious. But, literally, give me and the rest of the town's residents a break. If you have the money in your hand and no one is asking for it back, why do you relinquish it? (Hint: because it is readily known by the SC that the powers that be will happily allow you to take from the funds that rightfully belong to the taxpayers. However, must you be reminded that the town's taxpayers are not solely parents?)

But, of course, we should in all fairness acknowledge that the rest of us got a break, too. I think Mr. Watson referred to it as "giving back to the community" because it was "only fair" that if the school benefited from the free money, then so should the rest of the community.

We got halved beach stickers.

We COULD have gotten a reduction in our PAYT, but it would have involved extra work since it is under an Enterprise Fund, but it COULD HAVE BEEN DONE, is the point.

The school's fees were being collected, right? If a parent didn't have the money, then perhaps the child wouldn't be able to participate in an extracurricular activity, although I think I understood that no child was turned down from participating in an extracurricular activity even if they didn't have the money anyway, although maybe I am wrong in that.

In a perfect world,there would be no such fees, nor should there be. But, wake up, folks. It ain't a perfect world.

What happens to you all when it comes to the schools, anyway? Your minds turn to mush. If I also remember, School Committee members Mr. Jones and Ms. Moniz voted against doing away with these fees because it was not the right financial climate to do so. Someone at least had some sense.

The rest of you are like parents giving in to a spoiled child taking a temper tantrum.

Jake said...

In my opinion the select board has a double edged fiscal sword and the school board has a single edge fiscal sword. The school board members are elected to support education. The select board members are elected to support the town departments including the schools. School department represents more than 50% of our town spending and the other monies are divided between the other town departments. Selectman Trimble is absolutely correct. CIP expenditures should not be used to fund school materials, or police cruisers. These items must be budgeted. CIP funding was a one time expenditure to allow the school department to purchase books.
Now for the meat of the issue. The school board members are elected to service the schools. The select board members are elected to serve the town, including the schools. The select board and the school board members have two separate rolls. The school committee has control over two school related issues, teacher salaries, and appointing the school superintendent. All other school related issues are mandated by the state. As it relates to the hiring of teachers, the school board has no vote, as it relates to hiring a school building administrator, the school board has no vote. School administrators hire school teachers. The superintendent hires the school administrators. What are the duties of the elected school board? Just a rubber stamp. The elected school board can authorize a 5% across the board salary increase for all school employee's and the town select board members must come up with the additional monies. Why have a school board??
The elected select board members are the main attraction. They are the force of authority. They make the town operate with less than 50% of our town revenues. Your dam right Mr. Trimble should be concerned, I'm concerned and all I do is pay my fair share of taxes. I'm the person who is paying taxes but everyone must agree that over the past few years our select board members have provided a lot of skill to keep this town on the fiscal upside. All I hear from the schools is give us more money. The town select board and town meeting members have bent over backwards to provide the schools with more money, class rooms, furnishing the old Cushman school building and you want more. Now I'm really getting mad, but I want this to be posted so I won't say what I would like to say. I do have one concern and maybe a school board member can answer this question. The town has 72 full time police officers assigned to patrol 64 square miles. The school department has a full time police officer assigned to the high school to protect the students from students and the teachers from the students. How can you call this an education sanctuary ? Something is very wrong with our schools. When we need cops walking the halls at Dartmouth high school and the middle school. It's time to rethink our form of public education and why are we spending so much money.

Anonymous said...

What is a School Resource Officer

The SRO is an asset used by the community and the school in an attempt to address situations in the lives of students in a forum other than the judicial system.

The School Resource Officer program (SRO) is a nationally accepted program involving the placement of a law enforcement officer within the educational environment. The officer, while in school, is involved in a variety of functions aimed at prevention. Besides being an active high profile law enforcement officer, the SRO is a resource for students, parents, teachers and administration regarding law issues. Another duty for the SRO is being a link to other service agencies which provide preventive and counseling services within the school district. Working hand in hand with the Principal in each school, the SRO assists with finding solutions to problems affecting school age children.

The SRO program is a proactive approach to deal with the pressures today's young people find themselves having to confront. This includes the use of alcohol, drugs, and tobacco, along with peer pressure, gang activity, and sex.

These situations are not only in the schools, but in the community as well. The approach of addressing these issues only in the school, or only in the community, has not been completely effective. Traditionally, police and school did not interact until one called upon the other.

Are the Schools so bad we need SRO's

This is a question that is common with parents, teachers, and community leaders. The question is easily answered when you ask yourself the following:

Wouldn't you rather send your child to a school where there is an active law enforcement officer on duty, working with the school system, who acts quickly to solve problems?

Any time an officer is in an area, that officer’s presence alone will usually deter behavior not normally accepted by society.

Throughout the United States each year over 200,000 violent crimes occur on school property. Each year 150,000 students stay home because they are "sick of violence and afraid they might be stabbed, shot, or beaten". Every day in the U.S. 60 teachers are assaulted and 160 are threatened. It is estimated that between 100,000 and 135,000 guns are brought to school each day. During the 1992-93 school year, 91% of urban schools, 81% of suburban schools, and 69% of rural schools identified student vs. student assaults as the leading school related violent act.

Although most statistics are nationwide, we can see the trend. An SRO, if utilized correctly, should be the first line of defense against, drugs, alcohol, and school violence.

One of the most important aspects of the SRO program is the ability of the officer to develop teamwork in fighting many problems that students of today are facing.

The basic outline of duties for the SRO includes the following:

* Investigating crimes that occur within the school and on school property
* Creating a positive role model for students
* Creating a link between law enforcement and the students
* Being a resource for parents, staff, administration, and students in regards to law enforcement and community problems.

The SRO works with the School Administration, Educators, and Counselors. The role each plays is dependent on the needs of the situation.

Anonymous said...

The schools will continue to suck the town dry if allowed to do so. Everyone knows the schools are funded above RMNSS but they continue to deny it and continue to cry. Here we go into another fiscal crisis and the schools are standing with their hands out saying "give me, give me". We just gave them FDK but how soon they forget. They are like little children themselves always wanting more and never satisfied until they have drained everyone.

Anonymous said...

I agree with Mr. Trimble, Dartmouth needs to have sound fiscal policy in all departments and in the schools. I have children in our schools and value education but I also think the schools should plan for the future just as we all must do in our homes and businesses.

Anonymous said...

The vast percentage of school department expense is salaries and benefits. By comparison, much less is classified as operating expenses. The school department system has been hoodwinking the taxpayer for as long as I can remember regarding what is a capital expense and what is not. Is this fuzzy math in effect playing with the calculation of how much we are required to spend by the state for our school system? As in, if we incorporate the fictitious capital expenses into our normal operating budget, should we be required to cut other operating expenses and still be in compliance with state law?

Anonymous said...

The town has 72 full time police officers assigned to patrol 64 square miles.

The Town has 60 Officers not 72. The Chief has requested extra personnel but has been told NO!

Anonymous said...

Maybe the School Dept. and the Police Dept. should duke it out for the funds. What excuses would the School Committee have for needing the money in comparison with what the Police Dept. might need the money for?

Given the value of each in the community, which would you pick?

Anonymous said...

Stick to your guns Bill. Of course you have three other board members who will agree with Mr. Jones but none of that will matter. After the schools have taken everything they can get with the blessing of the three aforementioned, the time will come for another override. However, as in the past, the schools will get nothing unless of course there isn't a menu driven option but a lump sum for the town/schools. In that case no one will get anything because people will not vote to give the schools more money. That is why school officials and advocates are using every angle to get what they can without going to the voters. Don't think the voters are unaware. Community park??? Yeah right! Meals tax??? A lot of good that did for the rest of the town.

Anonymous said...

wow funded above the minimum..yall must be so proud...85% percent salary and benefits...cut some teachers.....nothing else to cut..they want books..cut staff..bring their own paper..im tired of paying for half of their insurance...nobody pays for half of mine...

Anonymous said...

yahh yahh..reduce payt...as I remember that meeting it was discussed but it was only 5 or 10 bucks...

Anonymous said...

im tired of paying for half of their insurance...nobody pays for half of mine... ??

It is federal and state law that a minimum of 50% of healthcare be paid by the Employer. It is not out of the goodness of the towns heart.

Anonymous said...

wow funded above the minimum..yall must be so proud...85% percent salary and benefits

Wow, do you want to make $200,000 a year and have 26 weeks off? Maybe free health care insurance? Do you need to be chauffeured to work and back? Will that make you happy? What is life like in the fellowship of the miserable?

Anonymous said...

Well, I'll take my 5 or 10 bucks, less even. It really is the principle of the matter. How many more people would benefit from reduced PAYT than did those buying beach stickers, even if there were more bought as a result of the lower prices?

It would have been, in my opinion, a show of good faith on the part of the Select Board to have given back to the majority of residents, rather than a select segment. Personally, I think more residents would appreciate that than to know they could get beach stickers for half price.

PAYT was instituted as a means for more revenue. We were forced into it, or the alternative of paying for private trash removal. Eliminating transportation fees and cutting extracurricular fees in half helped some people, parents; beach stickers made it easier for some people, maybe even those very same parents who had to pay school fees, to go to the beach. A reduction in PAYT would help far more residents and I think those residents would be most appreciative of that savings, however small.

Beach stickers are the "nice to haves" even if they are cheap. There's a big difference in wanting something and needing something. Would it have hurt the Select Board to have taken the time to provide more "giving back" to a greater number of residents than just a smaller segment? Beach stickers reduced: easy, quick to do, just in time for summer, and who looks like a hero? The Select Board obviously forgot it works, as Mrs. Dias used to say, "in the best interest of the town." Town: the entire community.

Anonymous said...

Chief Lee vs. Dr. Russell. And the winner is . . . .

Anonymous said...

What is a school resource officer

The DHS resource officer arrested three DHS students for assaulting him, a police officer. The students are before the judicial system, so much for your what is a school resource officer and prevention.
Another student was arrested for causing a disturbance inside a school class room. So much for assisting to find solutions to problems affecting school age children.
You stated the SRO program deals with the pressure today's young people find themselves confronted with as it relates to drugs, alcohol, tobacco, along with peer pressure, gang activity, and SEX. You used the S word. The SRO officer has made several drug arrest involving DHS students, but not tobacco use, the student/children smoke inside the boy/girl's restrooms. Peer pressure, gang activity, and sex, are not what the SRO is at the high school to prevent, because the children/students are not having sex in the school. Most sex offenses related to school students/ children are perpetrated by a teacher But not at the schools..
According to the school business manager Manny Cordeiro, the SRO is reading a news paper, or stashed away where he can't be seen. You can always contact Manny Cordeiro, school business manager.
The one thing that makes sense is a police officer standing in front of the school may prevent someone from causing a problem.

Anonymous said...

who makes 200 grand? SHOW ME......
One name will do.........

and the last time I looked beach stickers were available to everyone in Dartmouth..not a select few.

Anonymous said...

All this about the SRO makes me wonder where Kevin Lee comes in? How many "counselors" are there for the students? Are we duplicating responsibilites anywhere?

Anyplace for consolidation here?

Anonymous said...

Wow such bitterness over children, police and trash. Your blog Bill make me so proud to live in Dartmouth.

Bill Trimble said...

Shoot the messenger. Classic!

Anonymous said...

Boy, are you reading posts correctly? Yeah, beach stickers are "available to everyone in Dartmouth." The "select few" are those residents who have an interest in using the beaches and they are the ones that purchase the stickers.

Not everyone uses the beaches nor do they want to, but I think that most Dartmouth residents use PAYT. That would make PAYT users the majority of Dartmouth residents and the purchasers of beach stickers the "smaller segment." Get it?

What choice do we have with our trash disposal? We have to avail ourselves of some type of trash removal service and we have to pay for it. We don't have to avail ourselves of beach stickers, We can choose to buy or choose not to buy. We have no such option with trash removal. It's either PAYT or a private company.

Anonymous said...

The amount of money used to reduce beach stickers would have saved everyone 3-5 dollars on the PAYT program. Really everybody??

Billington said...

As a DHS student I want everyone to understand that most, if not all DHS students, have little contact with the SRO. Personally, I find him standoffish, lacking in personality skills, never smiles, arms always folded across his chest, defensive attitude. Yelling at students and shaking ones head is not a very nice thing to do.
My brother is a middle school student and likes the SRO. Just about every student, teacher, and custodians have tremendous respect for the middle school SRO. He is always pleasant, smiling, and when needed treats students with respect, even those who get into school trouble.

Anonymous said...

I sincerely doubt it would be 3-5 dollars, too, but I still would like to have had a token amount as a sign of good faith, for what that's worth. I have never heard it would be that much, but perhaps someone else has.

Point still is, more people would have benefited from PAYT reductions than would those who purchase beach stickers. It would look like the Select Board was working for us, however little we would personally save.

Anonymous said...

To anon. 1:11
I am proud to live in Dartmouth. All cities and towns are facing tough economic times but Dartmouth officials are trying to be proactive with regard to services and ways to deliver them to the public with less funds. Raising taxes is not the end of the world but we should look at the systems in place and see if we can do better. Our children deserve a top notch education but money does not always equal a better education. In my opinion, parent involvement is the most important factor for a positive education.Teachers give out the tools and parents must be good role models and take part in their child's education. I think the police are doing a great job. Chief Lee gets an A plus from me! And as far as the trash is concerned, chill out, re-cycle and compost more.

dreaded 3 AM call said...

That dreaded 3: AM call!

Our police department must be fully funded. As it relates to all town departments, I hope they are fully funded. Police are on call 24/7, 365 days a year. When that dreaded 3: AM telephone call is made, you will want a Dartmouth police officer standing at your front door. Police officers are trained to protect life and property. When a dirt bag breaks your door down at 3: AM they won't want to discuss the Dartmouthhitchingpost with you. When all hell is breaking lose, you want a cop at your front door within seconds.
This town is patrolled by police officers. They are assigned to North end districts, and South end districts. Most dirt bags wait until the early morning hours between 3-4 AM to smash down your front door, run into your house and take what ever they can to be sold for drug money. A smart dirt bag will find more in your Dartmouth home than in a New Bedford apartment house. If it's your luck day, the dirt bag will leave before you know what has happened. If your truly unlucky, the dirt bag will be looking for something more than he can sell, you. If this information makes you feel uneasy, wait until you dial 911 and find out your district police officer is in Padanaram and you live out on Division Road. Any reduction in police officers, shall decrease area locations. Where do you want your money allocated?

Anonymous said...

who makes 200 grand? SHOW ME......
One name will do.........

and the last time I looked beach stickers were available to everyone in Dartmouth..not a select few.


I think you may need to lay off the firewater. Although it may be too late.

As far as PAYT, as anti-tax as I am, I continue to see the recycling programs working far better than when you had carte blanche to fill up your garbage bags with newspaper, plastics, etc. My inevitable conclusion is that the less you pay, the less some people recycle.

Anonymous said...

I didnt mention 200k someone else did....

" do you want to make $200,000 a year and have 26 weeks off?" and stickers ARE available to everyone not just a select few....Not my fault your either too lazy or too ugly to go to the beach on the weekend...and if ugly's the case...thanks..staying home could be your community service..

Anonymous said...

To: February 18, 2011 11:38 AM

Thank for your eloquent and profound response. I am certainly willing to make amends if I have offended you. Next time I see you I will try to remember to throw a quarter in your cup. Provided, of course, that you remain downwind.

Or, I can attend a SB meeting such as the one where Mr. Souza's contract was not renewed, and join you in the audience. As disappointing to you as it would likely be, I will not participate in muttering obscenities or displaying their hand gesture equivalents. Do we have a deal?

Jake said...

School committee people are elected to serve the schools, teachers and not the other town departments. The select board people are elected to serve the town but have no control over the schools. This separation of authority was authorized years ago. When the SC votes to authorize salary increases for the school employee's the state law mandates that the town meeting members shall support the funding. The school committee people can not authorize a town override but the select board is authorized to call for a town override with the vote of town meeting.
June 2011 our town meeting members will gather to vote on monies to cover all town department expenses for 2012. This fiscal year shall begin on July 1, 2011. This town meeting is were the rubber shall meet the road. Town department heads will be in attendance to support or explain their budget. The school department will support their budget.
All town meeting members must listen carefully to recommendations by the finance committee. This is the committee that understands what is in each and every town budget including the schools. In my opinion all questions should be directed to the finance committee.

Anonymous said...

Jake, yes the fin com does have a lot of information about each dept and the schools and 'we' (town meeting members) and all town residents should listen to their opinion on funds, but it is also the responsibility of SB, SC, Fin Director, Mr. Cressman, Town Meeting ,and residents/voters to also have their say. That is what town meeting is all about. We will listen to the fin com, but they are not the 'end all' and 'be all' of Dartmouth.

Anonymous said...

Personally, I find him standoffish, lacking in personality skills, never smiles, arms always folded across his chest, defensive attitude. Yelling at students and shaking ones head is not a very nice thing to do.

You find yourself in the minority then. Teachers, students, and family members I have spoken with have great respect for the SRO.

When I attend DHS football games hundreds of students and parents seek out Officer Arruda and speak with him.

Perhaps you had a bad experience with the SRO? I have seen him smiling quite a bit, laughing and joking with students, faculty and custodial staff.

I also realize with 1200 students running around some will not get the attention they desire and will form opinions based on passing glances.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous Feb. 20 @ 11:19 AM

I'm in total agreement with your post. However, we need to understand that town meeting members are made up of town employee's, family members of town employee's. A large percentage of TMM are not town employee related, but know a town employee who is a town meeting member, sitting not too far away from where they are sitting. Most do not feel comfortable voting against something, or someone they happen to know. This is perfectly understandable, we all want to get along... don't we? TMM employee's like to sit way back in the last row of seats. When a hand vote is taken they can see you, but you can't see them.
I am one TMM of 6 TMM who voted not to appropriated 750,000 thousand dollars to fix the stone barn farm located in Dartmouth, owned by the state. This is tax payer money. As truly as I'm typing out on this post the CPC people will come back and sponsor another article to complete the restoration of the old stone barn. Now, don't get your hair up just because I disagree with 99% of the TMM. I just feel that tax money shouldn't be used to support historical old barns that serve no purpose and have no historical value. Most tax payers in Dartmouth don't know where the old stone barn is located, but they allowed the TMM to spend $750,000 thousand dollars to fix it.
We are listening to the selectmen say where is the money to run the town? Tax payers can no longer afford to pay the health insurance for town employee's, not enough money to support the retirement system, and on we go. Town meeting members need to understand that we are spending the tax payers money and the tax payers are fed up with paying taxes.
This is my idea on how to handle the next town meeting....vote down every town article that has a money value. Just vote NO. Vote no on every town department funding. As a great man once said, “Mr. Tax payer, shut down this town”.

Anonymous said...

"I just feel that tax money shouldn't be used to support historical old barns that serve no purpose and have no historical value."

That statement makes no sense. It shows the level of thought put into your whole diatribe. Dont like taxes? Find a place with lower ones than Dartmouth.

Anonymous said...

There is a simple factor to accomplishing any budgetary department short fall. Most Dartmouth home owner can afford a property tax hike. I know this and so do the property owners. Except for our senior citizens.
The selectmen, along with town meeting members, can call for a override of all town department budgets. This is how it works, each town department submits their operating budget to the town. The selectmen knowing we do not have enough town revenue to support certain budgets call for a town override to see if the town voters want to increase their property tax.
The override ballot will indicate each town department budgetary request. This shall allow the voters to chose which town budget they want to support, or none at all.

Anonymous said...

Bill:
I have a problem with your post in that you seem to use circular reasoning. You seem to be against the use of the free cash to supplement the school budget, but then you make it apoint ot say that Dartmouth does in fact spend more than the RMNSS. The point of school advocates is that without the free cash and assigning books to "capital expenses" we'd be right at the RMNSS. So you seem to want it both ways (I was against the extra spending before I took credit for it.) Finally, I understand your argument about cars and books -- but how is the school supposed to come up with that money. What would you propose cutting? Its a zero sum game. And again, without the "extra", we'd be right back down to RMNSS; do you really find this acceptable? #305? Is that something we should be proud of? What else would you accept being 305 in? And have we applied a similar analysis to the police? Where does the size of our police force stand in comparison to similar sized communities, or better yet, current criminal justice/DOJ/standards. And, thanks for engaging in this. It's informative for someone like me who is trying to learn more about town.

Bill Trimble said...

Dartmouth spends more than RMNSS even before including the capital money for textbooks or subsidies to get the school committee not to charge fees. That we do spend at RMNSS level is a zombie talking point which never seems to die.
How did the school district manage to buy the educational materials that they need before two years ago? How do other school districts do so without resort to capital funds? Somehow it was done up until two years ago, how is it now it cannot be done at all?
Finally, we have fewer officers on our force than what some standards would recommend. Nonetheless, we have a well policed community. We have traditionally had well regarded schools despite having spent less than the state average for many decades. Perhaps we have a particularly efficient and well lead police department and school system.

Rick said...

To the Dartmouth teachers and their union, your credibility is out the window.
Dartmouth Teacher union members must understand that your Dartmouth educators association members denied the towns students 750,000 dollar educational grant because the Dartmouth teachers union said “no.” You did not make friends with the Dartmouth parents who's children would have gained from this quality educational program
When ever our town is looking at a fiscal short fall the teacher union is the first to call for our selectmen to vote for an override. Yard signs go up everywhere, SOS save our schools, save our students. How hypercritical can you be. It's not the kids your thinking about it's the money in you wallets. How can you deny our students 750,000 dollars for education and say it's for the kids. I have always, but will never again, support your craziness.
Dartmouth will be asked to reduce all town budgets by 5 percent. This will require the SCM to reduced the school budget by 1.75 million dollars. And you want to take CIP (capital improvement project) monies to purchase books FOR THE KIDS.

Anonymous said...

Perhaps we have a particularly efficient and well lead police department and school system.

Its' because you hired a Chief of Police that is brilliant, I have spoken to him on several occasions he is articulate, and out going a true gentleman I was very impressed with him as a town department head. The board should be commended, to have found this guy, gone are the days of the good old boy regimes, thank God.

Anonymous said...

And yet we gave that same teachers union a 2% raise!

Anonymous said...

Bill:
Thanks for your reply. I can't answer your question, but I would imagine that there are many within the system who could point to increasing costs or additional services beyond their control -- but I'll leave that to them. Finally,not to quibble, but I must take issue with you use of "well-regarded." I would ask that we all refrain from using empty adjectives when we want to ignore data based facts, and then use data based facts when we choose to argue something on our side of the argument. We know how the Dartmouth schools rank: average. So let's all stop using "excellent" or "well regarded" to somehow justify not spending more -- when the information is easily obtainable at the BG, and the MCAS scores are right in the middle of the pack. (172 out of 350 in 10th grade English). What one can also see is that not enough of our students are scoring in the Advanced category -- according to the averages. Thanks.