The Town of Fairhaven has announced plans to put two commercial sized wind turbines near their waste water treatment plant. Like the Dartmouth project, Fairhaven will take advantage of the new net metering rules that pay retail rates for excess generation. This project had been permitted by the Fairhaven planning board as a commercial venture but stalled on threatened lawsuits by opponents. The municipal use may be considered an as-of-right use, ...
... so no special permit is required according to the New Bedford Standard Times.
The Standard Times article on the project is at this link. The article says the turbines will be 1.65MW macines and stand 460 feet tall including the blade height. That would seem to indicate that they are similar to Vestas V82 machines with a 41 meter blade on 100 meter towers.
I was talking to my brother this weekend and he has noticed that they are putting in a wind farm of some 30 wind turbines on a mountaintop near Cresson, PA.
Perhaps as the machines become more commonplace, they will gain more acceptance.
What do you think? Tell us in comments,
Monday, February 1, 2010
Fairhaven wind turbine project proposed
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Bill . Whos lawsuit will last longer Dartmouth or Fairhaven ?
I'll bet that group in Fairhaven gets more people to fight these things after the public education the residents of Faihaven have now!
Check out their website . The residents around our site should get their own website and educate the public - something Dartmouth never did !
windwisefairhaven.com
STOP THE WIND TURBINES IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS !!!!!
We need to look at the players in the Fairhaven wind turbine issues .
First Mark Sylvia -- Fairhaven High School Alumni Association's Board of Directors,Director of Green Communities Division within the Department of Energy Resources ,former School Committee member in Fairhaven and currently the Town Meeting Moderator,Plymouth town government for over a decade, Mark has held the position of Town Manager in Plymouth for over a decade and Mark resides in Fairhaven.
Second Jim Sweeney LLC -Wind Turbine Contractor from Plymouth , was on the Plymouth AEC while Mark was Town Manager in Plymouth, bid a fairhaven wind turbine contract in 2007 ,won the contract then withdrew the bid and special permit .
We in Fairhaven need to look at the relationships between Mark Sylvia of Fairhaven and Jim Sweeney of Plymouth . How does a guy who was on the Plymouth Energy Committee and then the Wind Study Committee in Plymouth end up as the wind turbine contractor in Fairhaven .Incidentally Jim Sweeney has never installed a wind turbine . Is this worth looking into ?
The reasons politicians lie is because the public doesn't want to hear the truth. People want to hear what they want to hear.The
public didn't want to hear the whole truth about wind turbines and contracts.
Despite all this scrutiny and commentary in these blogs, and the large audience, politicians lie, and they lie persistently.
We need to change government !
For those opposing the turbines in Fairhaven, your Dartmouth neighbors are now in a lawsuit ...for many reasons,some presently identified in the lawsuit, some to be identified later. Lets consolidate our resources.
There MUST be something the opponents can do to stop this outrage of encroaching setbacks and destruction of lives.
No one should be victimized or used as a guinea pig because, after all is said and done, years later all the claims of misleading information fed us by the experts on health and safety get blown out of the water, or, should I say, get blown into the wind.
You go, Dartmouth and Fairhaven!
It may be good to contact the attorney that represented the Fairhaven group . Lets protect out property rights !
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windwisefairhaven.com
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info@windwisefairhaven.com
Everyone should read the letter to the editor from a Fairhaven resident who is upset that the owner of a proposed industrial business (a transportation terminal) seeks to locate in a business-only zoned neighborhood. She makes some of the same points regarding the the erosion of the neighborhood residents' quality of life that our turbine opponents make.
I find it interesting and somewhat sad that both a proposed transportation terminal and two mammoth turbines generate the same reaction from those who stand to be affected by them, while in varying degrees, as in the Fairhaven situation compared to the Dartmouth Chase Rd. situation.
Apparently people value their quality of life more than those who could care less that it is destroyed, believe. After all, it is just "20-30 of the surrounding neighbors" to the transportation terminal who will be affected, and somewhat more in Dartmouth with the turbines, so it apparently is a miniscule number of individuals who will suffer and, that being the case, they can be overlooked and dismissed.
There is a school very close to this location ! how would you like to send your child to that school .
You need to look at the entire picture !!!!!
I think you need to reread my post. I was responding from the "viewpoint" of the proponents, who, in my estimation, have no true consideration for the neighbors who will be impacted by the turbines. I most certainly AGREE with the woman in Fairhaven who was upset that the Sconticut Neck Rd. residents would find their quality of life disrupted by the industrial business.
She makes some excellent points, some of which the Dartmouth turbine opponents made, but which fell on deaf ears.
I know there is a school nearby. If you have mistaken the gist of my post, I AM ON YOUR SIDE!
i would like to add that the neighborhood in Fairhaven is part of the area that the Fairhaven wind turbines will cast their shadow flicker on . The Town of Fairhaven may just be punishing this area of Fairhaven because thay opposed the turbines in the first place .
The Fairhaven turbines are going to be placed right next to the bike path ! They also can fall of the radio tower support cables and take down the radio tower .
Well, 8:11, we have seen how here in Dartmouth no one cared about shadow/flicker, either.
You will probably be subject to posters here who will imply that you in the Sconticut Neck Rd. area are all expendable.
Don't take it too personally. Not everyone has a conscience or can see beyond their noses when money and publicity for them are on the line.
I am in disbeleif that seemingly intelligent people would post such irresponsible and incorrect information with regard to wind turbines. Please take a moment to become educated with regard to terms namely " flicker". I am extremely saddened by so many of these postings and can only take comfort in the fact that you will see wind turbines very very soon in your community whether you like it or not. I can assure you the government, state, town, and developers will prevail. Thank God.
What is it about "flicker" that people don't know? Apparently they have read or seen videos that misrepresented flicker, so help them out. Either provide them with links to "educate" them, or give them the information yourself. They apparently aren't looking for it in the right places.
I'm sure a lot of misguided people could learn a lot if you just provided them with direction.
Fair enough. I will provide links to information regarding flicker and shadowing in a post to follow. To summarize for flicker to occur several factors must occur simultaneously. The sun must be very low in the sky and either rising or setting and at the proper angle to the residence or business. If this occurs it only lasts for a few minutes within any given day and only occurs a few days per year at any given location.
It sounds as though the judicial process in Fairhaven is as pathetic as Dartmouth!
Soon you will wee just how the SB and FinnComm really operate!
For those who are non believers regarding the effects of industrial size turbines on residents, please view the following video:http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=281030834441&ref=mf. Keep in mind that (1) the Hull turbines are only 50 Meter turbines, not 100 Meters as proposed by Dartmouth and (2)thruout the recent meetings with AEC and the SB, they were adament that nobody around Hull was dissatisfied with the turbines. See for yourself and then question what else the AEC and SB is saying!!!
Dartmouth Residents: Doesn't it make sense for the Engineering Firm hired by Dartmouth to look into land areas that could well suit these industrial turbines with proper setbacks from residents and due away with the undertow of negativism this project is creating? These turbines can be physically located at a further away site than the Treatment Plant and High School and all the resident issues would no longer exist. IT IS THE BY-LAW SETBACK OF TWO TIMES THE HUB HEIGHT THAT HAS CREATED ALL THE ISSUES. REVISE IT TO CREATE A SENSIBLE SAFETY AREA FOR RESIDENCES!!!OTHERWISE THIS PROJECT WILL CONTINUE INDEFINITELY IN THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM WITH COMPLAINT AFTER COMPLAINT FILED.
Do you honestly think the bylaw would be changed?
It was the AEC who wrote the bylaw. Now try and get it revised. Fat chance.
Hello,
I am from the often mentioned Fairhaven group. Do you find it odd that the supporters of these land based turbines are locating them where wind resources are minimal in respective communities (refer to area wind maps). They say it is because location in relation to the grid. With net metering, however, turbines could be placed where the strongest winds are blowing and for the most benefit for the community. Placing these turbines where winds are not the strongest is like placing solar panels in the partial shade of trees.
Speaking of trees, how many do you need to see? Apparently you will see a few less because these turbines are usually being sighted where thousands of trees will be downed to make room for these 400ft plus industrial structures. Not very green of them now is it. Turbines should instead be sited in open or already developed space? Do you find it odd that private developers say they will not develop without the all mighty energy tax credits that you and I have to pay for.
I closing I would like to say I am generally in favor of wind power. Projects should located wisely and with the proper consideration of those who will be most adversely affected. In both, Fairhaven and Dartmouth, a complete disregard for residents and maximizing the wind benefit for the entire community in evident.
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